Are Quakers Christians, and does it matter?

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From Quaker Thought, Posted by Val Schorre on Jan 07, 2008
Are Quakers Christians, and does it matter? written and read by Stephen Travis Pope

Modern Friends are often asked the question, "Are Quakers Christians?" As we publish no creed, and have somewhat vague and ambiguous spiritual practices, this question is rather interesting to ponder, both in the historical light, and with respect to what it means to modern-day Friends. Within the Friends movement there are groups that call themselves Universalists and others who consider themselves decidedly Christ-centered. This spectrum runs from those who can still feel in tune with the Apostle's Creed's profession of belief in "one holy catholic (i.e., universal) church," and those who sometimes call themselves "many avatar Quakers," who find important truth also in the teachings of other faith traditions. The Universalists often cite the following words of John Woolman. "There is a principle that is pure, placed in the human mind, which in different places and ages has had different names. It is, however, pure, and it proceeds from God. It is deep and inward, confined to no forms of religion, nor excluded from any, where the heart stands in perfect sincerity. [ ... ] I find no narrowness respecting sects and opinions, but believe that sincere, upright-hearted people in every society who truly love God are accepted of him. Rather than seeking specific names for God, Woolman advises us to "distinguish the language of the pure spirit, which moves inwardly on the heart." Early Friends, were, of course, also devoutly Christian, and Woolman spoke often of all people of faith as being the family of Christ Jesus in this world. Similarly, Robert Barclay defined the "one holy catholic church" as including all who have responded to "the inward calling of God by his light in the heart," and stated, "there may be members of this church not only among all the several sorts of Christians, but also among Pagans, Turks, and Jews." As St. Paul wrote in his second letter to Timothy, "tell them in the name of God that there is to be no wrangling about words; all that this ever achieves is the destruction of all those who are listening." The Zen monk Thich Nhat Hanh wrote, "when you are a truly happy Christian, then you are also a Buddhist, and vice versa." What truly defines the Friends movement, our creed, if you will, (in the words of Robert Vogel), is our shared emphasis on "plainness and devotion to truth, a clear understanding of spirit-led worship, and essential inwardness; the use of queries and advices in framing faith, the peace testimony and other social concerns, and the rejection of outward ordinances and sacramental worship." In the gnostic gospels, after the sermon on the mount, Christ tells his followers, "my father has told me that you shall all find your own ways to him." As one member of the Santa Barbara Meeting has stated on several occasions, "being a Quaker makes me a better Hindu!"



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edel: this just gets better

Derek Lamson: I beg to differ. My friend Marge Abbott has used the phrase, "...the Jesus romance..." in referring to Jesus Quakes like myself. Though she claims not to be one, what a lovely non-judgemental turn of phrase, and so charitable a gift from this weighty FGC-oriented F/friend. (She's not to blame for anything I say here.) My own lack of interest, shall we say, with the universalist testimony includes its tendency to wander off into subjectivism, selfishness, and exhaustion... for instance, when I hear self-identified 'Non Theist Friends' offer a definition of worship as that time between 10:00 and 11:22 a.m. Sunday morning when people sit down and do not speak; I feel like gently suggesting they consider joining another club... this is the club for people who are at least interested in a god other than themselves. I know how indignant this makes them... sorry guys, but really, the atheist clubhouse is over there... (looks comfy... hey! they have espresso!) one thing about the Jesus romance that works so well for me, is the deep shared history and tradition and experience of charity and humility, inspiration, hope, personal transformation, and joy. I like it that it's completely un-fashionable too. And you know? Good vibes don't get people sober. I know this for a fact: I majored in good vibes. In the gospel stories, in the lives of the saints, in our own flawed and hopeful walks, it's not just nice people deciding to do nice things, but appears to all be founded in peoples' experience of being called and empowered by Jesus. The Risen Christ. The Seed Himself. The Truth and The Light. This certainly does include our own Quaker tradition, programmed and otherwise. Pardon my french, but when people want to tell me their latest cosmic Coyote dream I find with some impatience that these tend to be the same people who are always just a little too scheduled up to actually practice any charity... what do I know? over 17 years an activist in a very liberal urban evangelical Friends meeting in Portland, Oregon... I'm not really a curmudgeon, I'm just drawn that way... I dig the conversation, friends, keep it up...

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